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Teal Deer About Your CR Meme

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♥ respond to other people's characters with your characters
♥ they tell you in detail what their character thinks of your character, ic or ooc! tl;dr is enouraged.
♥ then you react if you want!
♥ other people do the same thing to you! maybe you can harvest your tl;dr to use in a CR chart later!
Éowyn
Re: Éowyn
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Her excuse for hating him (besides that he's a stuck-up sociopathic asshole) is mostly to do with Aragorn. She already hated him for turning Aragorn in, and that was made 10000% worse when Aragorn died permanently in the very next Arena. She's come to the conclusion that the Capitol killed him off because of his rebel activity, and therefore indirectly because of Tom.
The thing with Éowyn is that she deals with grief by seeking vengeance. And in the case of her castmates, she couldn't have vengeance against the people who actually killed them (the Capitol), because she was already doing everything she could to undermine them anyway. So all that anger and grief and hate got transferred onto Tom, even more so because he killed her and failed to save Arya. (She's still very angry at that, because if he'd just left well enough alone or, conversely, if they'd killed one another faster, Arya might have won and got out of the Games. She also isn't entirely sure he didn't do that on purpose, because he certainly got a lot out of Arya dying)
In a lot of ways, Tom is someone she really needs right now, because he's such an unapologetic asshole that she could go on hating him, and I think if she didn't have that immediate hate to keep her going, she would either have gone mad or done something really stupid by now.
Some of it is tied up with Arya, but the truth is, she wouldn't mind him and Molotov being Arya's pseudo-parents if she didn't hate them both so much. She only sees him as competition because they're so ideologically opposed; if he wasn't her enemy, she'd be perfectly happy to let him be Arya's adoptive dad and just be a sister (which is how she thinks of her relationship with Arya anyway). But she does hate him. So very much. So screw him.
Her hatred for Jason is much cooler and less personal. Like, she still hates him, don't get me wrong. But she hates him less for who he is and more for what he is: an avatar of the Capitol, and someone who exemplifies everything she hates about this place. And tied up in that is a kind of weird pity, because he's genuinely pathetic to her: he's self-centred and childish and he's never been free. She thinks of him kind of like a badly-behaved dog: it's not his fault he's an idiot, it's the way he was raised and the influences of his society, but that doesn't mean it's okay or that she has any patience for it. And eventually, he's going to have to be put down.
She finds it very ironic that he looks down on offworlders, given how pathetic he is. She can't take him seriously. She gets annoyed by him, and she hates him, but she can't actually herself to see him as enough of a threat (or important enough) to count him as an actual enemy. She'd kill him if she could, and she wouldn't regret it, but she wouldn't risk her own life to end his, which she definitely would for Tom. Part of her also thinks that he's such a pathetic human being that letting him live might be a more fitting punishment.
Bayard, like most of the children here, is someone she feels a sense of responsibility towards. She doesn't feel particularly close to him (they've only talked a few times, after all), but she is grateful to him: he helped to ground her when they met after she arrived, and that meant a lot. Mostly, she just wants to protect him from the war and bloodshed around them, because no child should have to live through that.
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Because that is Firo's role now. He is her Panem brother. There is no escape.
In more seriousness: they clicked as soon as they met, and they've only got closer since. Éowyn is still baffled by a lot of things about Firo, from the way he speaks to the basic foundations of his world, but she's adopted him as a brother and she'd fight to the death for him. He's also one of the only people in this world who she genuinely, absolutely trusts: especially since that time they got drunk together, she's felt able to talk to him about anything she really needs to get off her chest, since he already knows her secrets.
She was really deeply touched by him setting up the Western movie night, and she feels like she owes him for that; he thought about her and went out of his way to make her feel better even though she hadn't said anything about it, and that kind of thing means a lot.
Originally, she definitely thought of him as a lot younger than her, partly because he looks like a kid and partly because she feels older than she is. But as time's gone on, she's accepted him more and more as an equal (which is pretty fitting, because they actually aren't that different in age - three or four years, tops). That was kind of fixed for her when they had that run-in with the Théoden-ghost. So she's still very protective of him, but as a friend rather than as a responsible adult.
She also appreciates having someone else she knows feels the same way about the Capitol, and someone who had the guts to admit to it straight out. That's part of why she feels able to trust him with so much of her emotional baggage.
He's one of the few things about this world she'd be really, genuinely sad to leave behind.
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She hasn't entirely made up her mind just how much she trusts him, but she does like him and feels like they owe each other some degree of friendship. Up until the end of the Arena, she was fairly ambivalent towards him - liked him, and was willing to help and protect him, but more on principle than anything else - but then he saved her life in the snowstorm, and that kind of changes things. Now she owes him one.
She also worries about him, given what he told her then, and maybe more importantly, what he didn't tell her. She knows what it's like to carry people's deaths on your shoulders, and she doesn't want that for him. He's one of the people she feels kind of helpless around, because he needs something she can't offer in terms of emotional support, and she doesn't like not being able to make things better. Especially not for someone she owes her life to.
Also, he is small and also smol, and she feels protective of him because of that. She'd have his back in a fight, that's for damn sure. She hasn't seen him since the Rebel attack, and she's a little worried for him. She tells herself not to be, because he's not her responsibility, but she kinda feels like he is, so...
idk I'd like to see where their relationship goes tbh.
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Jormy you're givin' me feels. I love just how the arena thread is going
even if I dropped the ball on the sword sparring one because hghh how do I make it interestingjust from those little moments of her worrying over him and him getting to help her and wow they've both really been through some shit, huh? I look forward to seeing what the war brings, and I second you wholeheartedly in wanting to see where their CR goes in general.no subject
hugs for everyone
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Firstly, she likes him. Not romantically, but she does like him. He's good at cheering her up and saying things she needs to hear, and although he's rough around the edges, that's actually a pretty nice change from the Capitol's smoothness and prettiness and overly-perfect-ness. He isn't like anyone from home, really, but he isn't like a Capitolite either, which means he's a welcome break from everything going on in her head. And he's friendly, and good at listening, and sometimes surprisingly sweet. He's a good friend, in short, and he's helped her through a lot.
Then there's the sex. She won't let herself feel guilty or embarrassed about it, but it does complicate things a lot. He's one of only two people she's ever had sex with, and the other is her husband: given that she has no romantic feelings for him, that feels super-weird. She simultaneously hates him a little for putting her in this position, and is weirdly grateful to him for it: she really needed to let off some steam, and he gave her an outlet for it. (Also, it was good sex. So, you know. That counts for something). Her biggest concern with the sex, really, is that other people will misapprehend it as something romantic, rather than the purely physical thing it is. But she has had to re-examine their relationship in the light of it, and re-examine her own attitudes to sex and romance, so that's a thing.
Jack is also one of the few people she knows here who she doesn't feel responsible for, either as an enemy or as an ally. She'd help him if she can, but he does fine by himself and the nature of their relationship is such that she doesn't feel like she has to worry about him. This is a relief, given how many people she has taken responsibility for.
But now she's really angry with him, because he's on the Capitol's side, and she feels betrayed by that. And because of that anger, she's coming to realise how much he means to her: she wouldn't be this angry about most of her friends, only the really close ones. Which means that she has to admit he's closer to her than she thought he was. She does care about him, but next time she sees him, he's liable to get hit in the face.
At least he's used to it?
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deservesis so used to being hit/slapped. He should really expect it by now :').no subject
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and of all the people Éowyn is close to here, I think Arya tops the list. Arya is like the sister she never had, and she sees so much of herself in her. That actually sometimes makes it quite painful, because it isn't only the good things they have in common. She hasn't talked to Arya so much about this, but she has a lot of sympathy for Arya losing her parents, partly because she remembers how it feels to be a child and have your parents violently taken from you. And Arya's experience with it has been worse than Éowyn's, so she can only imagine how hard it must be.
She feels very responsible for Arya, and is extremely conscious of how young Arya is. Even knowing that she's already seen war and suffering, she wants to protect her from it; she's impressed by Arya's strength of character, but really just wishes it wasn't necessary, and wants to make life easier in any way possible.
There's also this thing I'd like to explore with them, which is that Éowyn has more in common with Sansa than Arya does; I'd be interested to have them discuss Sansa, because Éowyn can see her value in a way I don't think Arya can. Just a thought.
But, yeah. Éowyn definitely thinks of Arya as her little sister, and will protect her as such; she would struggle to think of her as a daughter the way Tom or Molotov do. The age difference is part of that (they'd be very far-apart sisters, but they're too close in age to be mother and daughter; I figure the difference to be about 13 or 14 years), but a bigger part is that Éowyn thinks of Arya as being older than she actually is. She still sees her as a child, but partly because of how similar they are, she sees her as being... like, a teenager rather than a child. Which still makes her way too young to have faced what she has.
Honestly, Éowyn really just wants to take Arya home with her. Come live in Ithilien, Arya. You can ride horses and fight with wooden swords and not be in danger any more. With the best big sister.
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It's been a while since Cullen and Éowyn actually talked. But she still considers him a friend, and she was really glad that he won the last Arena (although I didn't put her on the Crowning because I suck at activity). She was looking for him in the Arena, and was worried when she couldn't find him, so that made it even more of a relief when she got back to the Capitol and got to watch him win.
He reminds her of home, which is kind of bittersweet; he would have fitted in pretty well in Rohan or Gondor, and she thinks he would get on well with both her brother and her husband.
We discussed a while ago how they might have become an item if they weren't both Very Married, and I think that still holds; I suspect if and when they talk again, they'll still have that instinctive kind of closeness, but she'll never think of him in a romantic way. She also wouldn't necessarily talk to him about emotional things, but she would trust him implicitly in a battlefield situation.